CON 12/30/07 - "People were not born gay. I think they choose to become that way because of being rejected from people of the opposite sex. And now a days people think its cool to be gay and I don't. I think its disgusting seeing two men kissing and its not normal."
Anonymous 12/30/07
PRO 12/25/07 - "I was born gay and knew it since I was about 6 or 7.
It is definitely a biological happening, I did not choose this for myself. If I had a choice I would choose to be straight most definitely because it is so hard to live a life around religious bigots who only want to judge and condemn you and make you feel bad about your self. I am 44 and just recently i was so hurt by some hardcore catholics who found out I was gay. They bascically cut-off all communication with me and I thought they were freinds. I am so hurt by this. Life would be much easier and less stressful if I was born straight. But God made me this way with a purpose, and although I may be looked down upon by some, it gives me the courage to fight on and to stand tall and be proud of who I am. I know what it is like to be rejected, forsaken and cut-off from others just because I am not like them. Some people could not handle what I have gone through, and I barely did. [...]
I am a Gay Christian and greatly blessed. I am proud of who I am but still it is hard to live in a homophobic America. [...] I am who I am and God created me this way and I have every right to be me and no one should have a right to deny me my freedoms, especially in America."
Joseph 12/25/07
CON 12/8/07 - "There is no way in heaven or earth that
man or woman was born either way. These high knowledgeable professors need to study the BIBLE and see what Genesis 18 & 19 says about it. Also he says for a man to leave his mother & father to marry and become one. These high knowledgeable people are leading many people astray with their sciencetivity believe and not teaching people the truth."
Asa 12/8/07
CON 9/16/07 - "Homosexuality is a choice. Children may make this choice at early ages and even forget they made the choice, yet it can effect them as they grow and many children come to believe they were born gay. There may be a gene, but consider it for gender nonconformity. Many children with gender nonconformity think they are born gay. Yet it was or could have been the influence. Not all children that are gay have had gender nonconformity, and not all children with a gender nonconformity will choose to become gay. Children can be influenced and they even experiment, all which play a role in making choices."
Ronda 9/16/07
PRO 9/16/07 - "We have recently seen research suggesting that high levels of testosterone in the womb leads to autistic babies. It follows therefore, that the high or low levels of some hormone or chemical in the womb, could be responsible for defining homosexuality in some offsprings."
Reg 9/16/07
PRO 9/11/07 - "I knew I was gay at the early age of 5 or 6. I never could forget how many times I dreamt of kissing my landlady's son, who at the time was about 19 years old. I am 72 now and I never forgot him. I was born gay."
Alexander 9/11/07
PRO 8/15/07 - "I think gay sexuality is determined at conception and as such is a natural phenomenon. How does it happen? In my view it happens when one of the partners may be suffering from some temporary condition such as an infection (influenza etc) when conception takes place and this affects the chemistry of development. It is quite 'normal' and nothing can be done about it nor should any attempt be made to interfere with the process."
Reg 8/15/07
PRO 8/9/07 - "My brother is gay and I knew it when he was three or four and I was five or six. My best friend from high school is gay and I'm certain both these men were born that way. I don't feel it's a choice they make. The choice is to come out or hide. They are wonderful caring compassionate people, one of whom is battling AIDS! I love them both very much. My brother was suicidal until he stopped trying to be straight and got honest about who and what he is. My friend prayed every night in high school that he'd wake up straight, that this was just a phase he was going through. Born Gay? Yes I believe so, very much!"
Debbie 8/9/07
BOTH 7/29/07 - "Why should we always search the criminality or homosexuality genetic causes? As a matter of fact, most human characteristics result from a combination of nature, environment and personal history, so that different approaches are available and necessary to understand and explain behaviours. But my question is: what about genetic heterosexuality? It seems evident: animals and human beings are able to make children. That is nature. Is it necessary to have a genetic heterosexual orientation? Not for humans. If you consider real twins, and especially gay male ones, the proportion of their brothers being gay is 50%. Too much or to few? I read a publication in "Pour la science", french release of Scientifc American, in which studies was related and hypotheses discussed, but one. My idea is: gay people, these twins, have not got a natural heterosexuality. So only other factors influenced their behaviour: approximately 10% of the population could have the same genetic combination, and 50% should be gay. Is that idea so indecent? Apparently, nobody had it before and I do not understand why."
Christophe 7/29/07
CON 6/25/07 - "I believe that being gay is not a choice, but an actual state of mentality(usually pessimistic), where all men are born with the option of becoming gay. The reason I believe this was that whenever I would ask one of my homosexual friends about whether or not they could actually get a women, I never found one say that they weren't attracted to women, but always 'I could never get a women.' Maybe I'v just found all the pessimistic gay guys, but from this, I have come to believe that most gay guys are actually using being gay to escape from the fact they believe themselves that they simply cannot find the right women, or get a women in the first place, and not because they are attracted to men over women, or that they've had bad experiences with women. I also believe that a lot of homosexuals stick to the born gay idea, as not having any control over one's sexuality makes it so much easier for them to accept what society calls wrong. Despite the almost entirely speculative research on gayness at birth, gay guys cling to it adamantley and won't even consider the alternative, as they think of the alternative as an attack on themselves. These are clear sign of denial."
Brad 6/25/07
PRO 5/26/07 - "Having been brought up in a religious family, I had always felt uncomfortable about having same-sex attractions. For me, it became important to know the cause of it. After reading dozens of scientific studies online, it became pretty clear to me that sexual orientation is fixed prior to birth. Much is yet unknown, but it's pretty certain that the origins are biological. If the science is read and understood, I can find no other rational explanation. In retrospect, the evidence was there since I was five years old. Since I didn't have a choice, I can no longer feel uncomfortable about who I am."
Ted 5/26/07
CON 5/24/07 - "No, people are not born gay. This is pure deviation in life against what scriptures preach. I believe human beings like other animals were created with one purpose as far as sexual life is concerned,to reproduce. Sexual organs in animals and humans are for reproduction only. These are penis and vagina and not anus, mouth or other places gays and lesbians convert for their sexual desires. This is pure deviations. You can not turn the earth upside down. Creation and reproduction had purpose. Even gays and lesbians were born. Why deny others right to be born by deviating from normal life as prescribed by God our creator. Read Leviticus 18:22. I pity them as they are lost. Read Isaiah 5:13. My people are getting lost for lack of knowledge. Who will teach them? Let them turn to churches and other religeous organisations for salvation."
James 5/24/07
CON 5/21/07 - "I don't think one is born gay or lesbian at birth. No medical professional has singled out a gene that defines whether one is going to be gay or lesbian, especially at birth. If one is supposedly born either gay or lesbian at birth, then why can't we say that we were born prejudice? I believe prejudice is a learned trait and that no child is born with prejudice. Can you imagine what the world would be like if each of us were born with prejudice? Not a nice place to live in."
Anonymous 5/21/07
NEITHER 5/6/07 - "I am an Holistic Promoter and believe in Reincarnation. When all minority and alternative lifestyle individuals and groups start to become aware of the importance of thinking with an open mind, about matters spiritual (not religion) and find out what happened in their previous incarnations, they might find some of the answers to the question "why am I Gay". It is not just a matter of genetic make up, as we are trained believe by orthodox religion and science, or what our parents told us."
Mike 5/6/07
NEUTRAL 4/11/07 - "I don't think people that are gay should need an excuse to be gay. Its their choice and they shouldn't have to defend themselves to anyone. If people don't like gay marriage...THEN DON'T HAVE ONE... What gay people want to do is their business and no on else's. I'm for homosexuality and anyone who isn't has nothing better to do than bother people about what they're doing."
Lyndsey 4/11/07
No Position Taken 4/9/07 - "All these devout religious fundamentalists proclaim to be servants of God while debasing and degrading their fellow man. That's right - gays are still people, too. It is so convenient that a supernatural omnipotent being should once again be used as an unquestionable sanction for another ridiculous discriminatory ideology. I'm convinced that had [the alleged] God realized what a tool he had become for man's insatiable evil and prejudice, he would have long since ceased to be, for the indignity of it all.
Whatever the answer to the Gay debate, a religious perspective to my mind offers nothing by way of substantially compelling argument. This is not to say that morality is to be discarded or is irrelevant - but rather that a question framed in such a fashion seems to invite explanations that do not involve conclusions based on religious speculation."
Martin 4/9/07
NEITHER 3/10/07 - "There is a different argument that actually would bring a lot of light to this issue. Nature, nurture? I say NEITHER. After struggling for years with same-sex attraction in one instant the orientation was removed! I was stunned at what I had discovered. If nurture is the cause -can rejection cause the same gender to look different? Demons, yes, evil spirits produce homosexual orientation. I have discovered a direct connection. Demons change how the same gender looks. Once all are removed immediately the same gender looks different. Once removed there is no more homosexual romantic response, interpretive response, physiological, or fantasy response to the same gender. Nature, nurture? NEITHER!"
Clinton 3/10/07
BOTH 1/12/07 - "I think that some people are born gay and others have 'learned' to be homosexual. The people who grew up hating their parents because they beat them or something like that often become homosexual even if their first instinct was to be heterosexual. Others can't remember when they became homosexual and insist they were born that way. Well, maybe they were. Who's to say that either side is right or wrong without definitive proof? I'm sure not going to judge them."
MJC 1/12/07
No Position Taken 1/9/07 - "I don't believe, as you state, that you are presenting a "nonpartisan pro-con format" on the issue of homosexuality. If you were, you would not only have a section dedicated to "changing sexual orientation" but also to accepting it. Throughout, under a guise of objectivity, one can feet your bias. You don't think homosexuality is a good thing. Therefore you lie."
Daniel 1/9/07
CON 1/1/07 - "I don't believe I was born gay. I just think it was my choice. I was never real close to my father and was close to my mother, however."
Jay 1/1/07
CON 12/5/06 - "Whoever says that gay and lesbianism is natural simply has a perverted mind. It is an insult to the creator. Any church or pastor that blesses such evil already has condemnation of nature...no fruit."
Bill 12/5/06
PRO 11/24/06 - "I know of several small, highly religious towns in Latin America where they have little or no exposure to the "mainstream" media, yet like every other community homosexuals are born, raised and live in these small towns. Family and community members embrace their homosexual family members as special gifts from God! To members of these towns, homosexuality is not about sex or how they have sex, it's about them as people with different yet special characteristics, and homosexuals are treated like everyone else in the community.
My personal belief has always been that God created all people (along with everything else), and therefore, my sexual orientation was just part of the package that God created when I was conceived. My God loves and accepts me just the way I am, just the way I was created, and that's good enough for me."
Rebeca 11/24/06
PRO 11/18/06 - "As intriguing as this question is, once you've embraced your sexuality -- your gayness -- then it becomes moot. I am gay, utterly relaxed about my sexuality. Not sure it matters whether I was born gay (though I am quite certain I was) or not, I simply am."
Chris 11/15/06 chrisholden09@yahoo.com
PRO 11/15/06 - "I do believe that my son was born gay. Ever since I can remember he has had female emotions, actions, everything. I am perfectly fine with him being gay and I love him unconditionally, forever."
Cam 11/15/06
PRO 11/14/06 - "I wish that someone would check the genetics in my family! I know of 15 of my nieces and nephews who are openly gay, including one son of mine. I have 5 siblings, and these 15 have all been born to my children's generation. This cannot be a fluke. Luckily, the majority of our family understands that "It's ALL good!" In our family, we have many cultures including Tongan, Afghanistan, Native American, African American, Mexican, Hawaiian, German, Swedish, and Italian. Our children are so diverse and yet, so many are openly lesbian or gay. It's not a problem it's just something that makes me think our family genetics should be studied."
Gladys 11/14/06
PRO 10/3/06 - "Having been a narrow-minded Christian in the past, after reading Faris Malik's essay on Natural Eunuchs identity as the homosexual in ancient world, I was convinced some are born homosexual. This identity of the born eunuch of Matt 19:12 is stated from the very mouth of Jesus himself; there are some so born from their mothers' womb. To me this means hormonal exposure in the womb determines one's sexual preference."
Michael 10/3/06
CON 9/2/06 - "Well, I am a Christian and I believe the Bible is the word of God. Romans Ch. 1 versus 22 thru 32 explains it very well. The only reason it is even debatable is because people try to raise themselves above God and come up with their own reasons. Verse 28 says "And even as they did not like to retain God in there knowlege, God gave them over to a reprobate mind,to do those things which are not convenient". Or verse 27,"And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the women, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was met." This life style is also an abomination unto God. No abomination's shall enter Heaven, and all the people trying to make excuses for them and denying the truth are just helping to send their soul to hell for all eternity. I don't hate them, I just hate there sinful ways. If it is an abomination to God, and I am His servant then it must be an abomination to me as well."
David 9/2/06
PRO 7/21/06 - "Can there be any doubt that homosexuality is a matter of nature not nurture? There is absolutely no choice involved. If there was a choice, nobody would be gay. What person would consciously choose a lifestyle which must be kept secret. The gay person stands the chance of being disowned and evicted by their parents, losing their job, being constantly ridiculed, and is a prime candidate for a hate crime. So with all this as a given, who would really choose to be gay? People always want to do what is socially acceptable and being gay is surely no one of them.
I ask my straight friends when did you make your choice and they all look at me mystified. I just come right out and ask them when they made this critical decision. The answer is always the same, they didn't make a choice, "that's just the way I am." So when the majority of the population can't ever recall making a sexual orientation decision, why do they feel that gay's do. The fact that gay youth must hide their true identity often leads to extreme depression and suicide still remains the leading cause of death among gay teenagers. The evidence has been in for a long time. Therefore, I can't understand how this nature/nurture issue is still out there."
Bill 7/21/06
PRO 7/4/06 - "I appreciate your website very much. You can put me down as the mother of 3 sons, one of which is gay. My son is happy and well adjusted although it took time for him to come to terms with his homosexuality. He just recently married his partner at a very nice ceremony in Canada. I am grateful for the generous, loving, and open minded spirit of our Canadian neighbors. They have opened their hearts and country to allow same sex marriages for even US citizens. I pray our country will some day recognize the rights of gays to marry. I can also tell you I knew my son was gay when he was a toddler. Thank you so very much."
Angela 7/4/06
NEUTRAL 5/10/06 - "I am doing a report on this issue for my English class and have found this site to be extremely helpful. But here are my personal comments on the matter: homosexuality exists, whether by nurture or nature. Even a staunch conservative Republican who's been raised in strong Christian background like me cannot deny the fact that people are walking around everyday with different sexual orientations. Whether we approve of them or not we must learn to accept people for who they are and stop controlling people's lives. What do I care if homosexuals get married or have intercourse in their own behavioral way, it's none of my business. But persecuting people for sexual orientation seems a bit ridiculous. Legally, I can see how many would not want to allow marriage rights, tax write-offs, etc. to homosexuals but I honestly believe that should not matter. People are people and we must let them live freely in a country founded on equality. Morally I disagree with homosexuals but I tend to lean towards Dick Cheney's point of view. I have sympathy for these lost souls but I would not deny them their god-given rights."
Brittney 5/10/06
PRO 5/9/06 - "I was born in SW Ontario, Canada in 1956. There was a 'conspiracy of silence' in that no one talked about the possibility of being gay or lesbian. The orientation was not acknowledged. However since age three I felt 'different' and knew I had same-gender attractions. It was very painful to grow up with that secret. The statements I read on this site that say it is a choice to become gay, are totally wrong. I have met hundreds of gay folks and no one made that choice.
It tore me apart inside to grow up feeling one way and not acting on it or talking about it. It is insane to try and change anyone's orientation, what is needed is acceptance of what is. Many religious folk are so full of disinformation and hatred for us that the world can be unkind and frightening. I accept that straight people are who they are and I expect the same back. Straight people just happened to be more common than us.
It is terrible how gay rights in the US are being thwarted by religious hate groups. I hope that there will be an enlightenment some day.
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Lynn 5/9/06
CON 4/14/06 - "I haven't seen any comments regarding Harvard's Edward Wilson's seminal work in Social Biology.
Social biology posits that much of our behavior is genetically selected for the prime purpose of passing genetic code in lieu of an individual attaining immortality. In other words if I'm going to die, at least my genetic code can be passed on.
If this is the case, then how can a same sex coupling pass on genetic code?
As a result, the problem is that while a very few genetically passed same sex individuals have existed through the ages, it is only in societies that are on the decline that those genetic misfits to the mandate to pass on their genetic code are allowed to exist. The reason these few genetically wired same sex are allowed to exist is because over time same sex behavior is accepted.
As a result most same sex activity is a "Learned" or nurtured behavior. Since most males by genetic coding is to make sure that genes are passed on, i.e. in lieu of immortality and since every ejaculation consists of 1,000s of sperm, then promiscuity of males is a wired or genetically driven behavior. Since most males are driven by the response to achieve climax it is irrelevant the sex that helps achieve climax. As a result, with the majority of same sex behavior due to promiscuous motivation, it becomes vital to the non-genetically same sex inclined, to make sure societal acceptance of same sex activities becomes de rigueur.
In summary, same sex behavior is the result of nurtured acceptance of promiscuity driven by achieving sexual release through climax regardless of the receptacle."
Jim 4/14/06
PRO 3/11/06 - "Those who quote the Old Testament as the final word spoken by the Creator are in error. The book of Leviticus is not essentially a Christian document but was written by men who were establishing the standards and life style for their own community as THEY felt God who have wanted it. For Christians, Jesus did not condemn gay people, nor indeed anyone, for their sexual orientation.
I was brought up in a normal Christian family - parents and 3 children - I experienced a happy and open lifestyle and could ask my parents about anything that concerned me. Boys and girls were my playmates and my schooling was co-educational throughout. When, at age 21, I said to my parents that I though I might be gay, my mother replied - 'yes, we know'."
Sam 3/11/06
CON 3/6/06 - "In order to continue as a species, natural desire, reproduction, conception and birth must occur. Without it, we have no society, no social issues and no questions to deal with including the issue of Homosexuality. Homosexual 'partners' (male and male or female and female) can NOT naturally reproduce, period. That's not my rule, its the way it is. The majority of people are born with the heterosexual drive; and a small few are born extraordinarily smart, or very tall ,or amazingly beautiful, or with significant athletic superiority, and so on. And while I personally do not 'buy' being born gay, perhaps a small percentage of human beings (and animals) are born homosexual. But so too are a percentage born with various issues and deformities, diseases, birth defects, afflictions, etc. It is nice that we politely call them normal, but we all truly know they are not as we know and understand Normal. Everyone should be understood and accepted for who they are (or who they believe they are), but elevating anyone to a level obviously not normal, natural, decent or moral does not logically follow. And the process of forcing this onto the collective understanding and acceptance by the whole of society will never succeed for these most obvious reasons."
Steve 3/6/06
PRO 1/29/06 - "What is truly amazing is that there are actual educated "so-called experts" who think and say that there is no proof that homosexuals are born that way! According to their way of thinking, households with dominant females and weak or no male role models is what leads to homosexuality. Well if that were the case, then today's high divorce rate, single parent families, and both parents working should lead to a higher rate, should it not? Not the case is it! Throughout history, in human and animal societies, the rate has been constant and prevalent! It's sheer ignorance and religious brain-washing that would make any astute observer think otherwise!"
KB 1/29/06
CON 12/16/05 - "Look it states in the bible God doesn't want men dating men or women dating women. This is what God says. In the Bible the book of Leviticus Chapter 18 verse 22 God says 'Do not practice Homosexuality; it is a detestable sin.' Also in Leviticus Chapter 18 Verse 24 It reads 'Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the people I am expelling from the promised land have defiled themselves.' Like I said I am a Christian and gay people should get there priorities straight. Because before you know it Jesus will be here and there will be no excuses for the gay man or woman. And you can't determine if a person is gay at birth. Think about it - God would have made Adam and Steve or Eve and Jane. I pray that gay people will read the bible and turn from their corrupt life style."
Thomas 12/16/05
CON 11/11/05 - "As a former gay liberationist who fought for gay liberation in the early 1970's, I have not been convinced by the 1973 APA decision that homosexuality is not a pathology, because I disagree with the criteria used to define a pathology (using the adjustment of the individual to society as a litmus test).... the fields of psychology and science MUST speak out against the influence of religion and political correctness when deciding on a crucial issue as whether homosexuality is a pathology or not....
I want what is healthy for myself, and I don't want any bible or knee jerk liberal response that undermines scientific inquiry impeding progress."
Larry 11/11/05
CON 11/08/05 - "It is sad to see people trying to validate an existence that is totally out of the line of God. It is wanton rebellion, and as sin itself is, it increases into more ungodliness."
Phyllis 11/08/05
NEUTRAL 10/12/05 - "This is possibly the best site on the gay debate I've ever come across. I am to enter a meting with Church Leaders discussing this issue over the following three days, and what a brilliant find this was."
Andries 10/17/05
PRO 10/12/05 - "I was raised one of 10 children all homeschooled and attended my fathers church 4 or more times a week. We lived in a very secluded area with only other believers around and we were not allowed to watch television. Now explain to me how a homeschooled, preacher's daughter who never saw a television till the age of 12 can know when she is 5 years old that she is different and likes girls. Even though homosexuals were "sinners" I was never told what that meant other than they were sinners like liars and thieves. I never knew it was possible for 2 women to be together. BUT I still kissed a girl at 5 and have never felt sexual attraction to a man. No I was not molested and yes I have a very close loving family."
Abbie 10/12/05
PRO 7/1/05 - "I can remember everything about the moment I realized I was gay. My initial reaction was along the lines of 'No... I CAN'T be.' I remembered the horrible comments I'd heard from those around me (including my own mother) about gay people and felt obligated to fight and hide my homosexuality, until I realized two things: 1.) Change was not possible and 2.) I wasn't pursuing females because I wanted to or because I felt perverted or sick being gay - I was doing it for conformity alone. Most homosexuals will relate a similar history. It is because of this shared history of homosexuals that the whole idea that people are 'turned' gay by society is absurd."
Travis 7/1/05
PRO 6/1/05 - "As far as my life and behaviour is concerned I am 100% sure that I am born as gay. I am attracted only to handsome guys and not to beautiful girls. The things what I think and dream is just like dreaming by a girl
about a boy. I never dream of any girl but I always dream of a handsome guy.
If I see any handsome guy I really like to be friend and wanna be so close
to them."
Tommy 6/1/05
PRO 4/17/05 - "I am the youngest of six children, and gay. There are 4 males and 2 females. The third, fourth and sixth (me)children are gay. As I grew I started to question why -- upbringing or genetic. As I dove deeper into the family tree I found out that as far back as the line goes there are gays, or [family members who] lived with 'another' [of the] same sex. I firmly believe it is genetic! If I had a choice, I would have definitely chosen 'Heterosexual.'"
Byron 4/17/05
DOES NOT MATTER 3/31/05 - "Regarding the discussion of Nature vs. Nurture, I must give the same advice that I received from a medical doctor several years ago. We must recognize the facts as we know them... I am homosexual, now I must learn how to live with that truth rather that attempt to change that truth. I think that is simple and sane advice."
Kirby 3/31/05
CON 3/28/05 - "I feel an overwhelming grief concerning people who support writing discrimination into the State(s) Constitution and our country's Federal Constitution. The reason why I write to you about this is, the man that assaulted me when I was 2 going on 3 yrs old and rendered me incapable of the trust required for a heterosexual relationship - has all the rights to get married and have children, as well as the utmost protection one could ask for under the laws of the land....
You religious fanatics that are commanded by God to love your neighbor as yourself - fail miserably in regards to gay folks....
Get a grip, get real, the pedophile that assaulted me and rendered me incapable of a deep trusting and faithful relationship with a man - is judging my love life as a lesbian and you are furthering his assault on me tenfold, and I resent it passionately. 'You take a child of God and turn them into a twofold child of the devil.' Now that is bible substance!"
Teena 3/28/05
CON 3/6/05 - "Born Gay? That is not true. God made us
male & female. He did not make us gay. Born gay is a lie. God also does not hate
people. He hate our sin not us. Rather we be gay, murders, liars, etc... Sin is sin
no matter what kind it is!"
Cathy 3/6/05
CON 5/14/04 - "Humans were borne to be attracted to the opposite sex!!!!!!! It states in the Bible that God created man and then created him a mate, so they could procreate [and] the earth could be populated by dominate Humans. In most every passage in the Bible it calls homosexuality an abomination, and states that homosexuals can be saved and redeemed from this deviate and self-destroying lifestyle through Jesus Christ. Anyone that believes that they were borne that way, and anyone else that believes homosexuality is a borne trait, has a very deep mental problem and truly needs some serious counseling, preferably by a counselor that is a true believer in God and his word (The Bible)!!!!!!!
So, no, homosexuality is a learned lifestyle not a God ordained lifestyle, and if America continues down the road it is going, we just may find that God will take his wrath out on America, like he did the cities of Sodom & Gomorrah in the Bible. For those that don't know about those cities, or don't remember the passage from the Bible, God destroyed them because of the rampant homosexuality."
Dwight Vandiver, Sr. 5/14/04
PRO 3/28/04 - "I happen to be 'mostly gay' in sexual orientation. And I clearly remember feelings of strong attraction to boys even as far back as the second grade in school. And as a teenager I remember planning how I would kill myself because society wasn't quite as open and accepting of homosexuality as it is today, and I 'knew' that I was a pervert who had no chance of a happy life. Thank goodness I got through that.
But if you ask me if I had a CHOICE, the answer has never been 'yes'. The religious right tends to use the issue of choice as a door to condemnation. If you choose your 'life style' you can obviously be more guilty than if it is 'forced upon you' at birth or before."
Pythias 3/28/04
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